posted 11-23-2001 06:37 PM                  

Did you go through the serial port for installation?

posted 11-23-2001 11:16 PM                  

1) Restore my original clean 1.3 to a blank harddisk.
2) Use the BootCD to try to install TivoNet software, but fail. The script assume the unit has gone through software upgrades and has both partition 4 and 7.
3) Modify the script to upgrade just partition 7.
4) Put HD into Tivo and install TivoNet hardware. Ping worked but telnet didn't.
5) Use the serial connection to check the ip settings, ps, and modules and found out that W2K's telnet client killed the telnet process. Unix telnet client works.

I concluded that the installation process is ok and just avoid using W2K's telnet.

posted 11-23-2001 11:20 PM               

Also, does this mean you can basically use your tivo as a "server" and can have people download shows you recorded to their own tivos?

posted 11-24-2001 12:03 AM                  

Download the "new" guide, not the FAQ, from 9tee and following the new backup instruction.

mkdir /mnt/dos
mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos
mfstool backup -6s0 /mnt/dos/tivo.bak /dev/hdc

Very fast and the backup can fit on a single CD instead of 13 CDs that I did with the old way.

posted 11-24-2001 12:30 AM                  

quote:

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Originally posted by Wes:
The old way of backups is time consuming and need some tweaking.

Download the "new" guide, not the FAQ, from 9tee and following the new backup instruction.

mkdir /mnt/dos
mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos
mfstool backup -6s0 /mnt/dos/tivo.bak /dev/hdc

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I didnt get the line in to mount hda.
Now that i go through and get it right it tells me /mnt/dos/Tivo.bak is read only.
Ahhhhhhh

Is this because i didnt mount hda the first time?

posted 11-24-2001 12:46 AM                  

After you mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos, the /mnt/dos/ is eqvalent to C:\ You can boot up in dos and see what's in C:\ or do a 'ls -al /mnt/dos/ within Unix to see what's there.

Within unix, you can also 'rm /mnt/dos/tivo.bak' to remove the tivo.bak that you've created. I guess you do need a little bit of unix knowledge to get around.

posted 11-24-2001 11:42 AM               

quote:

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Originally posted by Wes:
What's v2.5extreme? I have the most updated 2.5.x and works just fine with TivoNet.

I've used dd to duplicate my original HD when it first came out of the box. I've also used dd to dump the HD image for backup. dd produces hugh image. Almost as big as your total Tivo HD size. Not very practical (comparing to other solutions that are availble now).

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not knowing any better, we've been using dd - we'll try to find more info on mfstool (it compresses? )

v2.5extreme is about 157M and was put out by surgeon on ddb in the past week... may be essentially the same as the 2.5 you have - did you get your update from tivo or from other sources?

also, did you get the tivonet w/their packaged isa card or will it pretty much work with any nic you have? i plan to get tivonet asap -- very cool

posted 11-24-2001 12:32 PM                  

Side question Wes, making SVCD's using TMPGE Mpeg2 what res for the video and what settings for the audio?

posted 11-24-2001 05:26 PM                  

However, if you're converting Tivo's video files to any format, make sure you load the template that specificly made for Tivo and TMPEGenc. You can get that file from some of those Tivo websites.

I got my 2.5 from Tivo directly since I paid for the lifetime service. I suppose the 2.5extreme is the hacked version for the non-subscribes?

dd does garbage in garbage out backup. mfstool intelligently pick out just the OS, partition info, and all the must have into for later restoring. It ignore all of the recorded shows. That's how mfstool can backup hundreds of GB of Tivo into hundreds of MB backup.

I got the Tivonet package. Althought I have a NE2000 compatible card, I rather have their pre-tested one. One less possible problem to think about.

posted 11-24-2001 07:37 PM                  

Also is there a way to use DHCP instaed of allocating?

posted 11-25-2001 12:01 AM                  

After doing the upgrade, put the disk/CD with the 2.5 Tivonet files in and mount the Tivo drive and mount the Floppy disk.

e.g.
#do the boot partition at 7.
mkdir /mnt7
#assume your tivo is the master at the secondary IDE bus
mount /dev/hdc7 /mnt7
mkdir /mnt/floppy
mount /dev/fp0 /mnt/floppy
cp /mnt/floppy/tivone-2.5x.o /mnt7/lib/modules/tivone.o
cp /mnt/floppy/probe-2.5x.o /mnt7/lib/modules/probe.o
cp /mnt/floppy/8390-2.5x.o /mnt7/lib/modules/8390.o

Do the same for partition 4 since you don't know if your Tivo is using 4 or 7.

mkdir /mnt4
mount /dev/hdc4 /mnt4
...
...

While you're at it, you may also want to copy other files such as smb, nfs, or any other stuff that you may use later to a temp directory such as <TivoRoots>/hack/other

Then, you can simply copy the files around within the Tivo drive while doing telnet into the Tivo box. No need to remove the drive and copy stuff in from PC any more.

posted 11-25-2001 04:59 PM                  

1) Just use the web interface to look at the "Now Showing".
2) Right click on the one that you want to extract out, and "save as".
3) The transfer rate on the 10Base Networking with the slow Tivo is only about 680KB/sec. Wait a long while, and you'll have your video file in Tivo format.
4) Run TyConvert.exe. It's a one-step program to convert the Tivo video file to a generic mpeg file. Since it is still in mpeg2 format, you need DVD players such as PowerDVD to play the file.
5) Optional: run TMPEGenc with the Tivo sepecific filter to convert the mpeg file into VCD or SVCD.

Just to give you an idea how big the raw Tivo video files are:
60 min (Basic quality) : 732MB
60 min (Medium quality) : 848MB
60 min (High quality) : 1.59GB
60 min (Best quality) : 2.53GB

I was extracting a Best Quality movie out and the web browser stopped downloading the file at 3.99GB. Probably it somehow hit some 4GB limit. My HD is using NTFS and it shouldn't have the 4GB limit. It could be just the limit of IE. Haven't have a chance to figure out why yet.

posted 11-26-2001 04:12 PM                  

telnet into your Tivo and run:
/tvi-bin/tivoftpd
and you can FTP into your Tivo.

If you want to start the ftp and http services automatically after the Tivo reboot, you can edit the /etc/rc.d/sys.init file accordingly with those standard ">> null" deal. For performance reason, I only start the ftp service when I need it.

There is also another ftpd availiable for download. I haven't try it out to see if there's any different.

Do try out the httpd-tt.tcl other than the httpd.tcl that came with the TivoNet though. It's a much cooler interface. However, you can't download movies from the web using the method I used though.

Talk about download movies, I have 90% of my recorded shows transfered to my computer and free up so much room from my Tivo. I think TivoNet should be a buildin feature for Tivo.

BTW, I just discovered someone wrote a Caller ID tivo script to pull CID info from CID Linux server. CID pops up on the screen when people call. Way cool!

posted 11-26-2001 05:04 PM               

quote:

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Originally posted by Wes:
I'm using 5.0.

Did you download over 4G from Tivo's httpd?

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posted 11-27-2001 11:46 AM                  

Anyway, I've extracted another movie that's over 2 hours in high quality. The size is about 3.8GB. And some medium quality 1 hour show that's over 2GB. So, the tivo movie size seems to vary a lot and I don't think I would hit that 4GB often. I wouldn't worry about it.