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shifty

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posted 12-12-2001 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shifty     send a private message to shifty   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wes

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posted 12-12-2001 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wes   Click Here to Email Wes     send a private message to Wes   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, you spammer.

Anyway, i think the lines you mention are the interlace line. Do you think that's what that is?

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posted 12-12-2001 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ash_OG   Click Here to Email Ash_OG     send a private message to Ash_OG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wes:
LOL, you spammer.

Anyway, i think the lines you mention are the interlace line. Do you think that's what that is?



Could be.....reminds me of a brick wall, offset. But why every 10 to 12 lines. Pause the vid clip and go frame by frame you will see it.

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posted 12-13-2001 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wes   Click Here to Email Wes     send a private message to Wes   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you mean these lines:

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posted 12-13-2001 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ash_OG   Click Here to Email Ash_OG     send a private message to Ash_OG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hehe,
yes there not in the tyconcerted mpg.

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posted 12-13-2001 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wes   Click Here to Email Wes     send a private message to Wes   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those are interlace lines. They are in the video all the time but they are MORE noticible in computer and in high action and in certain file format. You won't notice it when you watch it on TV. If you do notice them on TV, you must have done something wrong during the compiling process.

If you want to be picky, you can use the de-interlace option while recompiling. However, you cannot create what's not there. The de-interlace process often soften up the picture from the mathemetical process. If you watch it on TV, you'll notice that the result file is not as sharp as the original. Less is more.

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posted 12-13-2001 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ash_OG   Click Here to Email Ash_OG     send a private message to Ash_OG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well interlace never gave me this much of a problem doin Divx. What program did you use to make that jpg or bmp? I tried a couple and none worked.

I guess what I really want is dor DVD crap to come down in price so I can get the really good quality.

Oh and have you ever messed with making menus in Nero??

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posted 12-13-2001 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wes   Click Here to Email Wes     send a private message to Wes   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2 hours Divx is about 600MB. 2 hours SVCD is about 2GB. Divx simply doesn't have as much information as SVCD. That's why the fine "lines" along with a lot of detail simply disappeared.

Even if you do DVD, those lines will still there. Actually, those lines will be even sharper.

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posted 12-13-2001 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ash_OG   Click Here to Email Ash_OG     send a private message to Ash_OG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IF I watch the same episode on the Tyconverted MPG, pause and go through frame by frame the lines are not there. The quality you can get from the Tivo file is higher than I thought it would be. But quality you get from SVCD and VCD is just disapointing. The interlace lines start when you go into DVDtoAvi. Which gives me hope that there is something wrong in the process.

IF I take a shot of that same frame from the Tyconverted mpg the lines would not be that way. Acually I tried and none of the programs worked. hehe

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posted 12-13-2001 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wes   Click Here to Email Wes     send a private message to Wes   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tyconverted MPG is streaming MPeg. The regular Mpeg construct frame by frame for you to watch. Therefore, you see EXACTLY what's in the picture.

Anyway, one way or the other, you won't see any different on TV about the interlace line.

BTW, with the new TivoWeb, I can set the Tivo to record video file exactly as the SVCD spec. No need to go through the 8 hours recompile any more. The quality is extrememly good.

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posted 12-13-2001 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ash_OG   Click Here to Email Ash_OG     send a private message to Ash_OG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wes:

BTW, with the new TivoWeb, I can set the Tivo to record video file exactly as the SVCD spec. No need to go through the 8 hours recompile any more. The quality is extrememly good.

That what? heh? Ohh no here we go again.

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posted 12-13-2001 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wes   Click Here to Email Wes     send a private message to Wes   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just imagine using TivoApp to extract out a video. And the video IS already in SVCD format. No need to retouch. I already have it running.

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posted 12-13-2001 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ash_OG   Click Here to Email Ash_OG     send a private message to Ash_OG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why put off what you know is going to happen. hehe

Ok mister Wizard, what do I have to do?

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posted 12-13-2001 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wes   Click Here to Email Wes     send a private message to Wes   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Software upgrade.

1. Make sure you don't have httpd-tt or httpd running.
2. Install the new httpd-tt package and its modules using FTP
3. chmod +x * for all files (including the modules)
4. test if the new webserver runs
5. Then edit some resources (i'll let you know the detail of this part after you get the new web server running)

Let I mention at the beginning. ExtractStream is an all new area. Things will get better and there are software upgrade again and again. Fun, isn't it.
http://www.avsforum.com/ubbtivo/Forum6/HTML/009622.html

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posted 12-14-2001 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ash_OG   Click Here to Email Ash_OG     send a private message to Ash_OG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK,
I remounted the directory to be read and write. But I cant get the files with the extension .css or the folder modules to transfer over. I also tried to get the FTP program to just make a folder and it wouldnt.

Oh yes, i did tell winzip to turn off 'Smart
CR/LF Conversion'.

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posted 12-14-2001 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wes   Click Here to Email Wes     send a private message to Wes   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It doesn't sound right. You shouldn't have any problem transferring any kind of files over. Where did you transfer the files over?
I put all the files into /hack/bin and the module files in /hack/bin/modules

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posted 12-14-2001 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ash_OG   Click Here to Email Ash_OG     send a private message to Ash_OG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wes:
It doesn't sound right. You shouldn't have any problem transferring any kind of files over. Where did you transfer the files over?
I put all the files into /hack/bin and the module files in /hack/bin/modules


Modules is a directory i need to make. Its not there. And it wont let me.


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posted 12-14-2001 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ash_OG   Click Here to Email Ash_OG     send a private message to Ash_OG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ash_OG:
Modules is a directory i need to make. Its not there. And it wont let me.



Sorry folder


This is the errorSTATUS:> Checking directory existence: "/hack/bin".
STATUS:> Remote directory already exists: "/hack/bin".
STATUS:> Getting file information from latest listing ("/hack/bin/daynight.css").
COMMAND:> TYPE A
200 Type set to A.
COMMAND:> PASV
227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,1,53,4,13).
COMMAND:> STOR /hack/bin/daynight.css
STATUS:> Connecting ftp data socket 192.168.1.53:1037...
503 Only ASCII and binary modes are supported
ERROR:> Bad sequence of commands.

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posted 12-14-2001 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wes   Click Here to Email Wes     send a private message to Wes   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What kinda FTP program are you using? Try ftp://192.168.x.x using your web browser and see if you can drag and drop.

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posted 12-14-2001 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ash_OG   Click Here to Email Ash_OG     send a private message to Ash_OG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wes:
What kinda FTP program are you using? Try ftp://192.168.x.x using your web browser and see if you can drag and drop.

That moved the .css files but I cant do the folder

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posted 12-14-2001 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ash_OG   Click Here to Email Ash_OG     send a private message to Ash_OG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there a way to make the folder using the Bash prompt?

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posted 12-14-2001 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wes   Click Here to Email Wes     send a private message to Wes   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Using IE, just right click and create folder. Works on mine.

Using bash,
mkdir /hack/bin/modules

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posted 12-14-2001 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ash_OG   Click Here to Email Ash_OG     send a private message to Ash_OG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wes:
Using IE, just right click and create folder. Works on mine.

Using bash,
mkdir /hack/bin/modules


Right click in IE wont work for me. But I bashed the folder and were in bussness.

The web interface looks the same.But everything is in /hack/bin. Now what??? hehe

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posted 12-14-2001 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wes   Click Here to Email Wes     send a private message to Wes   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Make sure the module files are in the modules directory or other functions may not work.

Under Resource Editor, Bitrates,
RecordQualityMedium 75
DBSMediumVBRBitrate 2200000
DBSMediumMAXBitrate 2400000
DBSMediumResolution 2

Do the same for CATV because Tivo may not know you're using Satellite or Cable.

Make sure hit ENTER after entering EACH number. The web interface can only process ONE number at a time.

I also did the same change for AltBitRate. I'm not sure if I need it, but just to be on the safe side.

When you're done, restart Tivo. All Medium Quality recording is now 480x480 with MaxBitrate of 2400k.

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posted 12-14-2001 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ash_OG   Click Here to Email Ash_OG     send a private message to Ash_OG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
are you using httpd.tcl or the other one? Because I dont see the option.

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